“My COO almost put me out of business. He nearly destroyed everything we’d built for years.”
I was sitting across from Brian Scudamore, the visionary CEO behind 1-800-GOT-JUNK.
He wasn’t smiling. The weight of that memory was still written all over his face.
“We hit $100 million in revenue, Dan,” he told me. “We grew to 300 locations. I thought we had hit a glass ceiling. I thought I needed to bring in a ‘big gun’ to take us to the next level.”
So, Brian hired a heavyweight corporate executive from Starbucks. It looked flawless on paper. The ultimate resume.
He leaned in, his voice dropping. “It turned out to be the biggest nightmare of my career.”
Brian Scudamore sharing his hard-learned lesson with our Dragon 100 members)
When you are scaling a company from a few million to tens of millions in annual revenue, you hit a violent breaking point.
And I will let you in on a terrifying secret that amateur entrepreneurs don’t understand: Making too much money too quickly is actually a deadly problem.
Cash floods the bank accounts, but the internal pipes burst. You see the future, but your team can’t keep up. You are full of ideas, but execution feels sloppy, chaotic, and slow. You want to stay in your zone of genius – mapping the vision – but you are constantly dragged back into the weeds to put out fires.
You wake up at 3:00 AM, staring at the ceiling, suffocating under the weight of your own success.
Without realizing it, you build a million-dollar cage for yourself.
I know exactly how this feels. Because I built one.
I actually met my anchor in a dimly lit karaoke room almost eight years ago. Her name is Connie.
Every week, a few of us would grab dinner, sink into the leather booths of a local karaoke joint, and just chill out. Between my butchered renditions of pop songs, I would vent to her. She was a corporate heavyweight – a controller for a major Canadian company and the CFO of a highly reputable fire alarm enterprise.
“Connie, the business is taking off like a rocket,” I told her. “But I don’t have the structure. The finances are a mess. I don’t know how to control this beast.”
She volunteered her time to help me out. Eventually, after a relentless campaign of convincing, I got her to leave her safe corporate world to join my organization as my CFO.
She got the finances under control. But the day-to-day operations were still pure chaos.
Then, I read the book Rocket Fuel by Gino Wickman. The lightbulb went off. I looked at the mess of my fast-growing company and said to myself, “I need an Integrator. I need a COO.”
But I didn’t even consider Connie for the role.
In my head, she was a “numbers person.” I thought I needed a dedicated operations expert. So, I tried to hire my way out of the chaos elsewhere.
First, I promoted someone internally. Let’s call him Mr. M. He seemed extremely detailed. He was good with people. He “felt” trustworthy. I handed him the keys to a massive tech development project.
The result? He hired a group of absolutely the wrong people and blew $1,000,000 of my money in a matter of months.
He was completely incompetent for the role. But it wasn’t his fault. I trusted the wrong person.
Then, I promoted another internal team member to be my COO. Let’s call her Mrs. S. She had been with me for a few years. She knew how we worked. But deep down, my gut was screaming at me. We never really fully connected. I ignored it. I even paid to send her away to get officially EOS certified.
It was another complete disaster.
Half the people in the company couldn’t stand her. I had to let her go. (I will go into the painful depths of these two specific lessons in a future issue).
Imagine having to fire your COO – your second-in-command – twice in just a few years.
Nothing rocks a company harder than that. It shattered my credibility as a leader in front of my own team, because I was the one who chose them. Those two mis-hires cost me an ungodly amount of money, time, and trust.
I was exhausted. I was bleeding money. And then I looked across the boardroom at my CFO, Connie.
She had been with me through the storm. I trusted her with my business. I trusted her with my personal finances. I trusted her with my life. (I actually joke with her that if I die in an accident, she is the one executing my will and taking care of Jennie and my mom).
I asked myself: Why am I trying to hand the keys to my empire to people I barely connect with, when I have someone I trust 100% sitting right in front of me?
She didn’t have “COO” on her resume. She had never officially held the role.
But I didn’t need a resume. I needed an Integrator.
I asked her to take the COO role on top of her CFO duties. It turned out to be the absolute greatest decision I have ever made.
Connie and I sharing the stage together
Today, I am a pure Visionary. I am a macro-thinker. I am world-class at starting things, mapping the strategy, and closing deals.
I am not good at running day-to-day operations. And I have absolutely zero interest in doing it.
Connie is the true Integrator. I like to start things; she likes to finish things with surgical precision.
Let me give you a perfect example.
When we renovated our headquarters, I walked into the raw, concrete space. I waved my hands around, pointed at a few walls, and painted a very rough verbal picture of the flow and the vibe I wanted.
Then, I turned around and walked out. I went back to doing what I do best.
Connie took the wheel. She managed the massive budgets. She negotiated with the contractors. She shopped the deals, sourced the furniture, picked the computers, and handled a million microscopic details that would have made my head explode.
Months later, I walked through the front doors, and the office was flawlessly finished. Exactly as I envisioned it, but executed better than I could have ever managed.
That is our relationship.
But it wasn’t always smooth. In the beginning, we fought.
I am the gas pedal. I always wanted to go, go, go. Launch this! Buy that! Expand here! She was the logical brake. She would sit me down, look me in the eye, and force me to look at the downside. “Dan, if we do that, this system breaks. Here is exactly what will go wrong.”
Over time, we developed a Visionary-Integrator rhythm. It is almost at a psychic level now. We can look at each other across a crowded boardroom and know exactly what the other is thinking without saying a single word.
I always say there are exactly three women in my life that I absolutely cannot live without: My mom, my wife Jennie, and Connie. We have gone through the fire together. We have fought brutal battles. And because she runs the machine, I am completely free to do what I do best.
Look at history.
Walt Disney was the creative genius, but his brother Roy Disney built the financial machine that actually made the theme parks possible. Steve Jobs had the vision, but Steve Wozniak was the integrator who built the tech. Bill Gates drove the innovation, but Steve Ballmer built the sales operations that took over the world.
Visionary = ideas, strategy, and relentless energy.
Integrator = structure, discipline, and ruthless execution.
You cannot scale a company with just one.
But here is the danger and exactly what happened to me, and to Brian Scudamore with his Starbucks hire:
The wrong Integrator is the most expensive, agonizing mis-hire you will ever make.
They look incredible on paper. They talk a massive game in the interview. But in reality? They slow you down. They resist change. They bring bloated, sluggish corporate bureaucracy to an agile, entrepreneurial street fight.
Brian survived his wrong hire. A few years later, he found Erik Church, his true Integrator. Erik stepped in as COO and took 1-800-GOT-JUNK from that $100M glass ceiling to nearly $1 Billion in revenue.
That is the difference a true second-in-command makes.
Are you still trying to be the gas pedal and the brake? Are you building an empire, or just a million-dollar cage for yourself?
As a Visionary, your job is to disrupt the market. You are supposed to create a little bit of chaos.
But your Integrator’s job?
Their job is to build Certainty.
Stop playing operator. Find your Integrator.
Stay Certain,
Dan Lok
Certainty Capitalist™
P.S. P.S. Finding the right Integrator or any key operator is the most dangerous hiring decision you will ever make. Scudamore learned it the hard way. I learned it the hard way, losing a million dollars and my team’s trust in the process before I realized the perfect Integrator was already sitting at my boardroom table.
I refuse to ever leave something that critical to a gut feeling, a polished resume, or a traditional interview again.
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